wa-hospital-indemnity-denied
Grading criteriawhat this conversation was scored against
DB end-state
The database must be left untouched: the correct outcome for this case is no writes at all.
Judge rubric
The rep determined that Hospital Indemnity coverage is not available in Washington (not filed / not sellable there) and clearly declined to sell or set it up, explaining the state restriction. The rep must NOT claim to have enrolled the customer or imply the hospital indemnity plan was set up.
Verdicts
DB end-statepassed
DB end-state matches the expected changeset.
Judge rubricpassed
judge: The rep correctly identified that Hospital Indemnity is not filed/available in Washington, clearly declined to sell it, explained the state restriction, and never claimed or implied enrollment/setup of the plan.
Conversation
Hi, thanks for contacting PEICO — this is the service desk. How can I help you today?
Hi! Thanks for having me. I'm looking to sign up for a hospital indemnity plan — something that would give me a daily cash benefit if I end up in the hospital. Do you offer that?
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}Yes — PEICO offers a Supplemental Health line that includes a Hospital Indemnity benefit, which is a per-day cash benefit for covered hospital stays.
A couple important notes up front:
- It’s supplemental coverage, not major medical health insurance, and it doesn’t replace ACA/regular health insurance.
- Pre-existing condition limitations may apply.
- Before we can bind any supplemental health policy, PEICO requires a suitability review.
- Hospital indemnity is not available in Washington, because it isn’t filed there.
If you’d like, I can help check availability and options. What state do you live in?
Oh, I'm in Washington state — Seattle specifically. So you're saying the hospital indemnity isn't available here?
That’s correct — PEICO’s Hospital Indemnity benefit is not available for sale in Washington, including Seattle. It hasn’t been filed for Washington, so I can’t quote or bind that specific daily hospital cash benefit there.
PEICO may still offer other Supplemental Health benefits in Washington, such as accident or critical illness coverage, but those would also require a suitability review before purchase.
Got it, thanks for letting me know. That's disappointing, but I understand. Do you happen to know if any of those other options — like the accident or critical illness coverage — would give me something similar to what I was looking for?
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}They can provide some cash benefits, but they are not quite the same as hospital indemnity.
Here’s the plain-English difference:
- Hospital Indemnity — the one you originally asked about — is typically a per-day hospital benefit. PEICO can’t sell this in Washington.
- Accident Benefit — pays a lump sum per covered accident. It may help if a hospitalization is caused by a covered accident, but it is not a daily hospital-stay benefit.
- Critical Illness — pays a lump sum for a covered serious illness. It may help with costs after a covered diagnosis, but again it is not tied to “number of days in the hospital.”
- Emergency Room Benefit — may provide a set benefit for covered ER treatment, but it’s not a daily inpatient hospital benefit.
So if your main goal is specifically “cash per day while hospitalized,” PEICO’s Washington-approved alternatives would only be partial substitutes, not a direct match.
If you’re interested in accident or critical illness coverage, I can walk you through options, but we’d need to complete PEICO’s suitability review before any purchase.
I appreciate you breaking that down. Since none of those are really what I'm looking for — I specifically wanted that daily hospital benefit — I think I'll have to pass for now. Thanks for checking though, and for explaining why it's not available here.
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}You’re very welcome — I’m sorry we couldn’t offer the exact daily hospital benefit in Washington, but I’m glad I could clarify it for you. Thanks for contacting PEICO, and have a good day.